Curse

Manic Smile · Dec 30, 2005, 09:02 AM // 09:02

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Originally Posted by Jessyi

I hedged my bets anyways. I paid 60K for an IDS (not a horrible price) and now either one of two things will happen: they keep dropping, in which case I'll resell my sword for about the same price I paid for it and find a new one at my leisure....
-Jess

Try 30k...maybe 10k...it's only speculation that keeps it up to 60k now.

VampiricuS · Dec 30, 2005, 09:34 AM // 09:34

Has anyone added a pommel to an IDS? if so which ones? I know Hilts can not be added but was curious where to find pommels already salvaged ready to add.

tia!

aron searle · Dec 30, 2005, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Well i hope it stays, because the drops have been nerfed beyond belife.

On the first day they were "discovered" i went in teams and saw 3 drop on 2 runs (none for me). After that i have done about 15 solo runs (1 drop), and 10 team runs (0 drops), everyone i talk to is having the same problem.

If it dosnt stay some people wont get them just because the drop rate sucks now, unless there either really lucky or are prepared to go on 10 team runs approx or solo it.

Sonya of Red · Dec 30, 2005, 09:48 AM // 09:48

Today was the first time I've done an ids run. Wasn't really intersted in the sword but wanted to try it out (solo the cave). Wouldn't you know it an IDS drops.

When I went back to town, I looked at it and decided I really didn't like the graphic and sold if for 60k (almost imediately). So for those who have spent the last day hunting for this item without luck sorry they only drop to people like me who don't appreciate them.

Sorry

~red

Zakarr · Dec 30, 2005, 10:23 AM // 10:23

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Originally Posted by oscarmk

How would it be unfair?, i mean this weapon is nothing overpowered, if anything its worst than the other ones out there simply because you cannot change the icy on them.

All special items/armors which are highly wanted, have exactly same stats than for example with collector's weapons. If someone wants IDS because it looks new, they have to buy it for ridiculous price after it stops dropping. Those who played on holidays, have got it almost for free. Also those who don't play on holidays, usually doesn't have much time to play the game anyway so they don't have much money either which makes IDS almost impossible to get or they have to put all their money reserves for something which was before almost free.

Icy mod is not so bad. Ice elemental damage is better against any fire monsters and warriors. It is only worser against rangers and some elementalists which happen to have extra protection against elemental damage.

My suggestion is that they should leave IDS as it is now or add it to weapon crafter collection. They probably made a mistake because it always drop with perfect stats. Too late to correct that.

Lichtenberg · Dec 30, 2005, 10:41 AM // 10:41

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

I was in Lions Arch Int'l Dist 1 two nights ago when Gaile was there. I pointedly asked her the question whether the IDS would (1) still be available outside Lyssa's cave and (2) whether existing IDS's would stay in inventory.

She responded that (1) the IDS "may" be a wintersday item only and (2) that the IDS would continue to stay in your inventory, along with all other Christmas items. She did not indicate, however, whether the candy canes would continue to remove DP (although I asked her that question multiple times).

is there a place where it says when gaile gray does things like these when she goes to LA and anwsers questions?

-Loki- · Dec 30, 2005, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by sickkk

is there a place where it says when gaile gray does things like these when she goes to LA and anwsers questions?

No, you just have to be in the right place at the right time.

jimmy_logic · Dec 30, 2005, 10:54 AM // 10:54

The IDS item will stay purely for the facts that ANet would lose out if they remove the item from the game firstly from the players that will be complaining that they couldn't get one and its not fair that they reward farmers who farm over and over instead of sharing it around (i.e. through reduced drops) etc. Secondly they will be indirectly saying its okay to farm because by removing the item the prices will skyrocket therefore sending a message out to the players that farming reaps rewards (such as gold/ectos/shards). Thirdly by doing so it indirectly causes gold to be more valuable hence more people will hoard money in order to afford a "Unique" item, (can be offset with good AND decent accessible gold sinks). Fourthly the item was already seemingly place into the game before the Wintersday Update, who is to say there isn't a random cave that drops Ebon/Shocking Dragon Swords already in the game. Fifthly the sword doesn't cause any imbalances in the game, 4 weapons slots 4 different elemental weapons 4 different dragon swords 1 sword for each situation.

My 2cents

Regards

nowandromeda · Dec 30, 2005, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by VampiricuS

Has anyone added a pommel to an IDS? if so which ones? I know Hilts can not be added but was curious where to find pommels already salvaged ready to add.

tia!

I have, I added a Sword Pommel of Fortitude(+30) :-D Although most people already know you can add Pommels, I just wanted to brag.

semantic · Dec 30, 2005, 11:35 AM // 11:35

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

No, you just have to be in the right place at the right time.

Gaile drops randomly.

Ellix Cantero · Dec 30, 2005, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by Merry Madrigal

Yes, yes, and yes.

I have spoken to GG in-game about this TWICE, and the IDS is a new item that is a permanent addition to the game. It was actually added BEFORE the Xmas event (did you know that?)

Well, we have screenshots backing up one side of the argument. I personally hope they stop dropping after the event, at least in their +15 > 50 form.

kvndoom · Dec 30, 2005, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by aron searle

Well i hope it stays, because the drops have been nerfed beyond belife.

On the first day they were "discovered" i went in teams and saw 3 drop on 2 runs (none for me). After that i have done about 15 solo runs (1 drop), and 10 team runs (0 drops), everyone i talk to is having the same problem.

If it dosnt stay some people wont get them just because the drop rate sucks now, unless there either really lucky or are prepared to go on 10 team runs approx or solo it.

I'm still not following this "nerfed" logic. I've gotten [20] of the damn things so far.

Thursday 12/22: 5
Friday 12/23: 1
Saturday 12/24: 0
Sunday 12/25: 6
Monday 12/26: 0
Tuesday 12/27: 0
Wednesday 12/28: 5
Thursday 12/29: 3
Friday 12/30: TBA (still at work...)

I'm not doing anything special, just runing to the cave and killing all the imps like everybody else. Some days I didn't get squat, some days I found plenty. I don't see any signs of nerfage.

Theus · Dec 30, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Good thing I played the market to make buckets of gold from buying and selling them.

dont feel no pain · Dec 30, 2005, 03:01 PM // 15:01

well something that i always believed is we "nerf" them ourselves.

i dont know if it's true but.

Areas have thier own drop rate in "time" , say a area can olny allow a certain amount of drops and the area is never farmed (eg: the cave before it was found) then one person soloing it (and i one person in GW) would get lots of IDS drops because he is not sharing the drop rate , by showing that this new IDS is real and that it can only be farmed there , the areas drop rate stays the same and gets shared by the amount of people farming it, therefore making the chances of a drop smaller , the only thing that is effecting the drop rate is the amount of people farming it spreading the rate , and the ammount of people farming it changes all the time , in those low amounts u will have more chance , but since we can never tell it will just be luck for the time we farm it.

like think about it 1000 people farming the place , emm wild guess 300 droped , 100000 people farming the place 300 dropped. well thats my thoery.

it explains the fact that:

1.griofns drop golds like never LOL
2. i solo'd borlis pass for a guildy and got 3 golds armors
3.why ectos dont drop often.
4.why IDS have got less commom

ChoKILLate[FDG] · Dec 30, 2005, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Of course the IDS you find will remain in your possesion after the event, however, I think the area will be nerfed after Wintersday.

The IDS is part of the Wintersday event and was just the first thing added. If you noticed, they added things slowly day after day...like the 12 days of Christmas...as implied on the GW website. They added decorations, then collectors, then quests, then candy cane weapons, then snowball fights...etc.

Keeping it open after Wintersday will drop the value of the sword and the memories/excitement we all had when farming this area. I for one think it holds more prestige as an event only item, although I would not mind if they brought it back every Wintersday.

It is not the best sword in the game even if modded, so having it as a novelty (due to it's look) is the only real reason to have one. Making it available after Wintersday would nullify this.

ChoKILLate[FDG] · Dec 30, 2005, 03:31 PM // 15:31

I've had 2 really strange runs.

One one, I had a group of Avacara in front of the cave followed by a group of imps then another group of Avacara right at the mouth of the cave. I was able to fight the middle group of imps but had to do some major healing because of the degen from the first group of Avacara and a troll hitting on me from the imp group. I ended up getting an IDS from this group!

The second one had the Avacar and imps in the same group intermingled. I tried to pull an imp with an arrow but both groups came!...I rezoned.

agaue · Dec 30, 2005, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by kvndoom

I'm still not following this "nerfed" logic. I've gotten [20] of the damn things so far.

Thursday 12/22: 5
Friday 12/23: 1
Saturday 12/24: 0
Sunday 12/25: 6
Monday 12/26: 0
Tuesday 12/27: 0
Wednesday 12/28: 5
Thursday 12/29: 3
Friday 12/30: TBA (still at work...)

I'm not doing anything special, just runing to the cave and killing all the imps like everybody else. Some days I didn't get squat, some days I found plenty. I don't see any signs of nerfage.

you going solo? care to share your build/skills/tactics?
thanks

i've been there 8 times.
4 with groups of 5 no drop for anyone
4 with a full group same

dont feel no pain · Dec 30, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

yep he goes solo and so do i , it's quite easy as a w/mes , when u got doylak sigit and pshyocal resistance up with a stance sheild and armor +5 or armor +7 vs ele , its like 0-5 dmg on anything. and as for running i use sprint and charge (lots of people dont but i prefer it) a fiery haft/hilt my attack skills are penatrating blow , executionsers strike and deep wound/desperation blow.

agaue · Dec 30, 2005, 03:50 PM // 15:50

ah! i thought he was a W/Mo since that what says in his profile.

as a W/Me i know its easy, but unfortunatly atm i cannot change my secondary.

Gildor Took · Dec 30, 2005, 03:55 PM // 15:55

well i dunno how u got so many ids. Currently i have 1 IDS and that was after 23 runs. Anyway if they nerfed the IDS quite a few ppl would be unhappy. I think they should just nerf it from dropping in 15>50 form. BTW when is wintersday?